EX-SAI DEVOTEE SPEAKS OUT CONVINCINGLY ABOUT
SAI BABA SEX
In three lengthy
on-line TV interviews (at the US portal blip.tv.com) the former Sai
Baba follower, Ullrich Zimmermann, gives a thorough description of his
experiences with Sathya Sai Baba. This delivers a major blow to any
wishful doubts entertained by the faithful that Sathya Sai Baba practices
sex on male devotees.
Both his common sense and his more esoteric musings may well be helpful. He raises the question whether this oral sex was sexual abuse or a 'divine blessing', and - when this interview was made all of seven years ago, he did not then regard it as sexual abuse. However, the factual description he gave was of oral sex imposed on him virtually against his will and in his very first meeting with Sai Baba who he believed and trusted in fully as being God. Those of similar faith - such as his mother also was - tend to accept the idea that it was a divine blessing (unless - as most do - they deny it can ever take place). Many other young men from across the world have already independently testified to the same kind of sexual abuses by Sathya Sai Baba through many years (see under 'Witnesses' on ExBaba.com). None of them stated they regard the sexual acts as a 'divine blessing'.
Whatever 'spiritual' interpretations some devotees may choose to apply here, ExBaba's campaign to show that Sai Baba does indeed have sexual relations with young men is yet again vindicated. In the interests of truth and the protection of the innocent, former devotees and others around the world have worked - against cover-up and many obstacles - to expose the truth about Sai Baba's most widely alleged molestations of young males.
Ullrich's natural honesty is unmistakable as he tells of his whole Sai Baba experience - including the difficult and sensitive subject of oral sex. He, like others who have come forward, cannot be praised sufficiently for his bravery and adherence to truth and decency. As his interviewer says, these revelations will come as a major shock to those Sai devotees who watch the video, not least because of the openness and entirely unassuming character of Ullrich in his self-evaluations and his fearless answers to questions put to him.
Ullrich Zimmermann points out that there is a big difference between a 'guru' and a 'teacher' - where gurus unempower their followers and rob them of freedom, teachers (as to spirituality) always leave those who seek their advice to make up their own minds and achieve their own way in life. Ullrich followed Sai Baba as a guru, but is now very clear that he no longer wants Sai Baba or any other guru, even though there may have been some temporary benefits from such devotion.
Note that the International Chairman
of the Sathya Sai Organization, Dr. M. Goldstein (see 'The
Secret Swami'), denies that any such thing has ever taken place.
This denial is again seen for what it is, a sheer and - for a doctor
pretending expertise in sexual abuse - a despicable cover-up of facts.
There is full proof that these abuses were known
to Goldstein and many other top leaders, not least from Dr. Hislop,
circular letters to US organization leaders tried to cover up the same
kind of allegations in the early 1980s. Dr. G. Venkarataman, the
second-in-command of the cover-up by the Prashanthi Council whose closeness
to Sai Baba and position of authority gives him every opportunity to
check out the facts about Sai Baba's large scale homosexual activities
that Ullrich [and others] say are well-known to many ashram residents.
That Sai Baba escapes conviction is due to the impossibility of charging
him formally elsewhere than in India, and there he has virtual control
of the High Court of Andhra Pradesh and the Supreme
Court of India through his devotees who preside over them, fully
backed by his devotees - the current Indian PM, President and Home Minister!
His totally unaccountable Sathya
Sai Organization could not be sued in the US, not being registered
as an organization (instead it uses a bookshop as a front for its activities).
In the first part of this series, Ullrich Zimmermann tells how he came to Sathya Sai Baba and got his first interview. This is of more interest to those who have not been to the ashram. For those who have direct experience of Sathya Sai Baba through personal contact, devotion or in trying to practice his teachings, the first interview will seem too drawn out (playing time up to 1 hour). Ullrich gives a detailed description of how he - and many others no doubt - feel and experience visiting thge ashrams and Sai Baba so as to bring out the way in which - as a keen devotee - he was already largely indoctrinated already, and in a state of nervous expectation etc. He also shows how easily he then believed many things - was indoctrinated like most other devotees - before he even met Sai Baba. However, the conclusions he arrived at - some considerable time after his two sexual contacts - shows a quite other and much more critical perspective (stated in Part Three) .
In Part Two of the series (playing
time over 30 mins), Ullrich tells - with a very natural frankness and
believability - of his first experiences with Sai Baba in the inner
interview room in which he was induced to engage in oral sex (fellatio)
on Sai Baba on two occasions, though he was never gay and says he had
always felt the idea of being forced into gay sex "the ultimate
says he did not feel sexually
abused because he had total faith in Sai Baba (as God Incarnate)
and trusted he would always
do what was best for him. So he went along with the 'wishes he couldn't
this was a 'divine blessing' or merely sexual abuse for Sai Baba's own
satisfaction is for readers and the world at large to judge. Ullrich
attributes the uplift of spirits some time after it was over to some
kind of Tantric energy transmission. However, other explanations do
come easily to mind -
such as the release of great psychological tensions engendered throughout
and the well-known 'divine salvation'
enthusiasm and the ensuing 'spiritual honeymoon' effect, which Sai followers
get after achieving an interview so much yearned for and for so long
(but which is a temporary phase, as Ullrich honestly tells, lasting
only for some weeks in his case).
Apropos Ullrich's information about the 'really big scale' of Sai Baba's sexual advances and the acceptance of this by so many ashram residents, it is interesting to see the comments on how the news of such things affected the followers in UK in 2000 after the David Bailey news first broke there as written by the former President of the UK Organization and Central Coordinator for UK and Ireland.