The Denials by Dr. Hislop

Open e-mail of Conny Larsson March 24, 2001

Dear Friends in the expose of all the lies around Sai Baba!

Since I have noticed that a letter about Dr. Hislop is moving around within and outside the Sai-organisation saying that he didn’t know what was going on with Sai Baba and the students regarding sexual molestations, I can only tell you my story in which Dr. Hislop was involved, so you can decide for yourself what is true or not true.

I was Maharishi’s secretary in the year 1973. I did not know about a certain Dr. Hislop at the time, but came to hear from him through a letter to Maharishi from this Dr. Hislop saying that he could not stay in the TM-movement because he now had met God in form of the Avatar of Sai. He thereby declared to leave the Maharishi and the TM-movement.

Maharishi who had invested much in Dr. Hislop, by letting him to be his first teacher in the western world and even by having him being secretary for a while, felt dropped out and asked me to write Dr. Hislop a letter telling him about the beautiful things that were going on within the TM-movement and that he, Dr. Hislop, had is natural place in this. He also asked him not to follow this new master of his because he was Not the avatar at all. Dr. Hislop was told he now was following a dark path.

I myself, who had to write the letter to Dr. Hislop, was very surprised by Maharishi’s prompt answer to Dr. Hislop, but couldn’t do anything else than write what I was told by my master Maharishi. I had never heard before anything about this Sai Baba so I thought he was never anything else than a common Indian Guru fooling his devotees and I forgot about everything after sending the letter. Dr. Hislop was never heard of anymore, and I forgot about him too.

Then, ten years later, after since long I had left Maharishi and found Sai Baba as my God and Avatar and was fully devoted to Sai Baba in all ways, I met Dr. Hislop as the leader of the Sai organisation in the USA when I was down in Puttaparthi. I think this was in 1983. I was invited to come and tell my life story, which had become popular among the Sai-devotees around the world, to his Sai-group that was visiting Puttaparthi also. He had noticed that I was having very many interviews with Sai Baba, both private and with the group. When I was called, I during this journey had already had about 5 interviews and more were to come.

Since he heard my story with Sai Baba he told me that he was that particular Dr.Hislop that Maharishi sent the letter to - 10 years earlier - and we fell in arms of each other praising the Lord Sai’s skill in planning his mission for us for so long. This was what we believed. After the sharing meeting for the devotees he asked me to stay with him and then he asked me why Sai Baba had so many interviews with me. And since I was thinking that everything Sai Baba was doing with me was divine, I told him the Whole story about the sex we had that was on his (Sai Baba’s) own wishes, not mine, both oiling, masturbation, and oral sex etc. I saw in his eyes he was shocked, and he also told me that this was something he had to talk to Sai Baba about. When we left each other, he was shocked and what had I unknowingly caused in him? Since I thought it to be divine and was thinking that I had done no wrong by telling him.

It took one day for Dr. Hislop to get himself invited for lunch together with Sai Baba. Out he came on his feet faster then ever since he had brought up this question with Sai Baba about his sexual interest in me. We all know Dr. Hislop as a sincere seeker who wasn’t going to stop his investigation. And he certainly didn’t. Once more he talked to me about it and then he told me, that when he brought up the question with Sai Baba, Baba had answered him "This is not for you, you don’t understand the divine". When he asked Sai Baba further, he was thrown out from the room and asked to leave. Sai Baba had been very upset with him he told me.

Since I now had childlike shared all my experience with Dr. Hislop around Sai Baba’s sexual play with me, it was absolutely clear to him what was going on. He even asked me if I enjoyed it myself. I told him "NO this was Sai Baba’s acts not mine". He asked me if I ever had felt any improvement in my life force or Kundalini and I told him "No". Sai Baba wanted to do this with me and I let it happen because he was my God. At that moment I had never questioned this God.

We never came to talk about this anymore and we left Puttaparthi.

What he made out of this knowledge or was he denied about it is his matter? I told him about the sexual abuse as it was, and it could not have been understood in any other way, as just sexual abuse, and thereby his shocking reaction the first day I told him. If he later denied it, this is then the same as all the Sai-leaders and denying people within the Sai-organisation are doing.

It wouldn’t help if Sai Baba would be raping us in public. They would still believe it to be divine since they don’t want to loose their faith. We can’t win over stupidity, we have to leave it and go further on.

So to the question whether Dr. Hislop did know about the molestations of Sai

Baba, the answer is very much YES-YES. Anyone saying anything else is a lier. But what can we expect from these people who chose to follow a teacher that has been lying for all his life about himself from day one up to this day?

Yours sincerely,

Conny Larsson

(Former devotee)