Dear Robert: I was asked some time ago to write a contribution to a volume celebrating SB's forthcominmg birthday. First I was thinking of not writing but after my last trip I decided to do so. The Indian flowery exaggerated style is not for me, and I can only write what I think. Below I am sending you what I have written. It is the last paragraph that bothers me, perhaps it is not clear enough, perhaps some will find it offensive for Swami which is not what I intend. Before I send it off, with or without the last paragraph, may i have your opinion and suggestion? It would be much appreciated. I am leaving Iceland for three weeks on Wednesday morning, so a quick immediate reply would be much appreciated. I forgot to tell you that our old friend the editor was sick when I was in Puttaparti. He was in the hospiltal so was unable to see him. Erlendur |
From ???@??? Mon Apr 24 17:35:46 2000 Return-Path: <erlendur@hi.is> Received: from dimon.rhi.hi.is (dimon.rhi.hi.is [130.208.165.10]) by mail49.fg.online.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09435 for <rpriddy@online.no>; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:42:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from odpc75 (odpc75.rhi.hi.is [130.208.175.175]) by dimon.rhi.hi.is (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.0) with SMTP id IAA27402 for <rpriddy@online.no>; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:42:27 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20000423202553.007e9a70@mail.rhi.hi.is> X-Sender: erlendur@mail.rhi.hi.is X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:25:53 +0100 To: rpriddy@online.no From: Erlendur Haraldsson <erlendur@hi.is> Subject: SB contribution Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit |
MIRACLES OF COMMUNICATION Erlendur Haraldsson, Ph. D. (Contribution to a Commemorative Volume celebrating the 75th year of birth Uncountable attempts have made to describe, define, and put to words, what In 1950 Sai Baba accepted the invitation of my father to visit Venkatagiri More dreams of this kind have been reported to me and up to the present "It started by me feeling a very distinct source of radiating warmth to the Earlier Sai Baba had told us: "I am going to give you an experience". We 23-4-2000 Erlendur Haraldson dr. phil. Department of Psychology |
I have not been following the sceptics output in recent times and thanks At 04:08 PM 18-06-00 +0100, you wrote: I am wondering if you might have any useful comments - pro or con - about The claims of sleight of hand are of greater concern to me and they seem to > I would much like to know more about your writing. Erlendur Haraldson dr. phil. Department of Psychology |
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Dear Bob: Thank you so much for sending me some news. I knew about the Padmanabhan volume. In fact had long talk about it with Padmanabhan and his associate on this project when I visited Puttaparti last March. He wanted to have my advice on some aspects of this work which I gave to them. I think this book must be very interesting and I look forward to see it. He promised to send me a copy. Padmanabhan and his associate (a Bangali who teaches at SB's college) are in a unique position to get at interesting facts because of the proximity, the time they have for this work, and the culture that they obviously understand so much better than we. What I wonder most about, is how they deal with the negative approach to Baba that was so common in the early days. I encouraged them to be scholarly and report things openly and straight forward. That the birthdate is different here, need not be so surprising, such dates are so often wrong and made wrong for different reasons I have been told by Ian Stevenson who has been studying children in India speaking of previous life memories and need exact birthdates. The recording of authorities is often not reliable, sometimes even deliberately falsified by parents, e. g. so that the child can earlier enter into goverment or state service, there can be different reasons. As a joke one can say that in India it is difficult to find anything that there is not some confusion (or corruption) about. Discrepancies like this do not come as a surprise to me. I could say more things but let this be enough for now. Again, thanks for your letter. I wrote a contribution to his birthday volume. Did you? My theme: a sentence Kasturi once told me and Karlis Osis, "divine he is but also very human". My theory is that SB is the focus of a great force, or consciousness which is responsible for so many miraculous phenomena (many far away from SB) and which are associated with SB but SB is largely ignorant about them. I think he may to a largely extent be a case of overshadowing, which is sometimes close and sometimes distant. His basic human personality may well be rather crude. For me he has always been a rather queer mixture of very different even contrasting features. A remarkable personality in so many ways. Erlendur |
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Dear Robert: At 09:21 PM 28-06-01 +0100, you wrote: Both pro and con altough i have not been giving it much thought in the last It seems that the Sai computer hackers have managed to put Never met him but heard about him. What does he have to say? He had very much close contact with Baba (donated the helicopter used at 55th Have you seen this manuscript? Fortunately perhaps, SB never became of crucial importance in my life, just >Anyhow, I'm pleased to say that my mind has not been circling so much round Which accusations do you mean, the sexual misbehaviour or accusation of fraud? Dr Chari, an old friend and professor in Madras, very learned and clever I can't see what conditions could regenerate my faith in Baba - or Of course he will never change. In an odd sense his weakness may be his >So the "great devotees of Sai Baba" - the Nepalese royal couple - seen in Very intertesting for you and a thing to study are the changes that you If my "overshadowing" hypothesis about SB is true then his negative sides The question of SB will never exhaust itself as an interesting topic. I Thanks for dropping me a line. Do it again. Best wishes, Odda, 101 Reykjavik Department of Psychology |
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Dear Robert: I met Hislop first in the early 70s. He was particularly friendly to me and There can be many approaches to SB. One perhaps is like listening to a These were some rambling thoughts that came to mind as I glanced thru some Best wishes, Erlendur
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At 04:35 PM 23-10-01 +0200, you wrote: MAIL FROM AIME ON UK ORG. WESTERNER DEFECTORS Dearest Friends, Thanks for your last message. We are in touch with devotees here in UK and Talking to some Indian devotees (who by the way are not affected at all - Frankly Sandra and myself still do not know what to make of all this. We We are off to the States again, to the Academy to continue our studies of Lots of love to you both, Aime |