THORBJØRN MEYER, CENTRAL COORDINATOR
IN THE SATHYA SAI ORGANIZATION, EUROPE
who admits in an e-mail that Sathya Sai Baba does actually 'oil genitals', calling it an 'age old Indian oil ceremony'
by Robert Priddy,
ex-leader (resigned) of the Norwegian Sathya Sai Organisation & former Oslo Centre
In an interview on national
news, the leader of the Sathya Sai Organisation in Europe, Mr. Thorbjørn Meyer, leader of the so-called Sathya Sai organisation in Europe, attempted to refute
the claims of two alleging victims of major sexual abuse by Sathya Sai Baba. They had given accounts of their experiences. A young man, Alaya Rahm, 16
years old at the time, using the pseudonym 'Sam' described most credibly in the Danish documentary 'Seduced' how Sathya Sai Baba made him give oral sex under powerful duress and attempted sodomy too (unsucessfully). A mature former leader of the Sathya Sai Organization in Sweden, Conny Larsson, also explained how Sai Baba forced oral sex on him. Larsson explained the circumstances of this and his disaffection
in a convincingly natural and frank way on the documentary. (see transcript of 'Seduced' here and view Conny Larsson's testimony in brief video clips here - how Sai Baba wanted sex here
When asked about this and other
claims, Mr. Meyer asserted that it was all 'undocumented', repeating this like a mantra to ward
off evil! As
if statements made by victims in a documentary film were not of 'documentary' status! According to a member of the Meyer family, his own younger was oiled genitally by Sathya Sai Baba in the early 1990s (and maybe more), but was told by Sai Baba not to tell his parents! Mr. Meyer could easily ask his own son, who was given one-to-one private interviews with Sai Baba and received a supposed 'green diamond' ring, as his father had previously also had (but lost).
Previously, Meyer had asserted to a Danish newspaper that he
knew who at least one alleging victims was (Larsson) and that he had himself since been accused
of homosexual abuses, without Meyer offering any documentation or any other
evidence whatever. Though Meyer claimed he had investigated the allegations and contacted those involved, he had to admit that he did not know the major witness in the programme, Alaya Rahm, nor did he know the other US witness, Jed Geyerhahn. To know who someone is, one requires more than mere
hearsay. But Meyer had gone further, he was forced to admit that he had NOT therefore contacted the alleging victims! He cares not for facts, and he brushed aside all concern for the young men who claim they were vilely assaulted by Sathya Sai Baba - often under the massive duress of having comed to believe him to be an incarnation of God. He has never since denied or made any excuse for having made these heartless attacks.
the exchange of e-mails below here demonstrates, a wicked rumour was good enough documentation for Mr. Meyer. It is
transparently clear that he uses double standards on 'documentation',
which always favour what he wants to believe, wholly regardless of what
may be true or not.
The television programme also took place on the background
of the recent acquisition with US money of a famous castle in Copenhagen called Arresødal¸dal. A former accountant of the Sai Organization in Denmark - a good friend - reported to me the amount was US $6 million, donated by US Sai leaders to
a Danish group led by Mr. Meyer. The plan was to convert the castle into a Sai Baba type school which, in everything but name, would have been based firmly on Sathya Sai Baba's main teachings, with Sai
devotees as key staff, directed and controlled by completely committed
Sathya Sai Baba believers. The local mayor was
very critical of the sale of this cultural treasure to a group who
were very deceptive about their true nature and plans. The local populace
gave various forms of expression to their strong dislike of having
as neighbours what they realised, after the Danish documentary 'Seduced' is a cultist religious sect, so the project had to be dropped completely by the Danish Sathya Sai Organization.
After viewing the unconvincing nonsense
spoken by various leaders in the Sathya Sai Organisation
in Denmark, I decided to approach Mr. Meyer, who I have known all too well in the past, with information that might help him investigate the truth of matters concerning Sai Baba.
His response to this confirmed his bombastic
refusal really to investigate the many and varied allegations about
murder and 'dirty' sexual abuses in Sathya Sai Baba's ashram, Prashanti Nilayam. His failure
to retract his own groundless allegations against victims of sexual
molestation, as is seen below,
and his refusal in fact to do what he falsely promised to do, namely to
investigate the allegations properly, is reflected in his replies to me.
The e-mail correspondence below followed on an interview given (in
Danish) on Danish television after they showed the critical exposé film
'Seduced' about Sathya Sathya Sai Baba.
As will be seen, Mr. Thorbjørn Meyer
did not reply satisfactorily to my communications. He did not even
put me a single question regarding any of these serious matters, which
he claims to wish to investigate! (Note in 2008: Since 2000 Meyer has persisted in ignoring all the allegations which had surfaced then and all those which have been made public since!) The reasons for Meyer's failure to answer any of
the points made in the below are surely more than just one, most likely
being of a personal, psychological, social, and financial nature.
The most important for these was surely that he feared that by stating anything, or discussing the truth
of documented facts, he would have jeopardised the project for which he has
worked for many a year, a Sathya Sai Baba High School (European Sathya Sai Educare
Academy). However, this project sank without trace after the local populace demonstrated and caused the castle to be returned to the local authorities.
That Thorbjørn Meyer and many of his organisational
'subordinates' have systematically and unknowingly been enrolled further
and further into a very numinous and extremely subtle personality
cult, one which has many apparently good aspects, but one which at
the same time covers up for the major crimes of its guru, is not itself
blameworthy. It was also deeply involved for nearly 2 decades, until
terrible damning facts were told me about murders done in 1993 by
an impeccably honest person extremely close to Sathya Sai Baba whose inside information
I could not possibly doubt. Even then it took me about four years
of further investigation for me fully to accept the consequences of
this knowledge! Fairly predictable, T. Meyer rejected all this as
if it were nothing, as he has done in the past with any fact that
did not suit him, to my knowledge.
T. Meyer and his associated like the
businessman, Prof. Peter Pruzan, persisted in condoning Sathya Sai Baba's practice
of 'oiling of genitals' (quite apart from all the other molestations
reported by dozens of reliable people, people who evidently would
not want to confide in fanatical believers like Meyer and Pruzan).
Meyer must have long known this at least took place while covering
up this fact and keeping it carefully away from those (especially
young men) who visit Sathya Sai Baba. There is evidence that the now deceased
leader in the USA, Dr. John Hislop, Dr. Michael Goldstein, Robert Bozzani, and others
were informed of this, and of worse sexual abuses, for decades and
that Robert Bozzani called it 'old hat' (i.e. ancient news) to one of his
previous helpers in the USA. Many people in the Sathya Sai movement
openly admit the intrusive 'oiling' practices of Sathya Sai Baba and some even
defend it with specious arguments of the most bizarre sort.
(see at the bottom of this web page)
Though ignorance of the law is no
defence, Mr. Meyer has now definitively been reminded by me that genital
manipulation without the explicit prior consent of those touched,
even by doctors, is an offence punishable by law. He has not withdrawn
his support for it, in principle.
The following e-mails are also available in Norwegian translation here
From: Robert Priddy
Friday, February 15, 2002 10:11 AM Dear
Thorbjørn,Having recently seen the DR film plus
the interviews with you, Pruzan, Trygved etc. on the news, I think it is
time I informed you of some things you evidently have been unable to discover. I
think it will actually be in your interest to read this mail carefully.
I wish to do the service of recommending that you investigate certain matters
very thoroughly before you commit yourself further in taking on a very heavy
moral and legal responsibility with a Sai High School, considering the known
circumstances. To base such decisions on belief rather than on facts is
Firstly, and quite apart from the sexual allegations: V.K.
Narasimhan, with whom I must have had at least a hundred hours of private
conversation, started a process in me that took years to come to fruition.
By 1996 he was a troubled man, when he told me how Baba himself virtually
forced him to lie about the Trust in the press after the 1993 press exposÃ©
of its dealings which came out in the aftermath of the killings in the temple
in June 1993. Baba insisted that N. write a piece white-washing the
Trust even though he knew that corruption and embezzlement went on. However,
only the paper The Tribune, Chandigarth where his son was editor would publish
it! Mr. Suri of the Book & Pub. Trust was caught red-handed with
non-accounted Rs. 50,000.- too, whose dishonesty and theft Narasimhan had
long deplored (and I have experienced too, along with the Bruces etc). Narasimhan
confided in me when I had to ask him because of accounts I was told by a
well-informed IAS officer, one who knew what had happened in the investigations
following upon the murders after the police had been totally discredited.
When the four devotees intruded into Baba's rooms, they disturbed him with
the young boy (a well-documented fact!) with fatal consequences for
themselves. Narasimhan told me of Baba's younger brother and other Trust
members and ashram officials "they did a terrible thing". They
blackmailed the Puttaparthi police to execute in cold blood the four intruders
(who had slashed to death the two attendants who opposed them). The blackmail
was done on the strength of them knowing how the police had let the two
brothers who murdered the Swiss lady 'escape', once they had told the
police where they had hidden the ca. Rs. 80,000 stolen from that lady. You
know the lady I refer to, she was slashed terribly and died, having just
got her room in PN the day after Baba left PN in the spring of 1990 (or
perhaps 91?). I asked you about it once in the subsequent year when we met
at PN and you suggested that she more or less had herself to blame
by showing her money in the village.
The murder investigation in 1993 was quashed by the N. Rao
government (via the long-term devotee Home Minister S. B Chavan and the
Andhra Pradesh Minister), when the investigators got too hot on the trail
of the truth and when the Home Minister in the Rao gov't, S.B. Chavan, and
Baba's younger billionaire brother, Janaki Ramiah, discussed the incident,
Narasimhan was present. He told me that Chavan had congratulated Janaki
and the ashram authorities on the executions, saying 'Dead men tell no tales',
and they had laughed together over it!!
What tale would the victims have told, do you think?
Remember that two of them had been Baba's very closest assistants previously.
Narasimhan was very shocked by this, as you might expect! He had spoken
to Baba about it several times and repeatedly said to me, 'His reply was
not convincing, NOT convincing'. Padmanabhan, the photographer, and
others also heard this on one occasion with me too. Further, Baba was nearby
when the executions were performed, having just been conferring with
his brother & Joga Rao directly before the executions! What were they
discussing? It took me years and much pain before I could realise (from years
of increasing investigations since then) that nothing can explain away the
fact that Baba was a passive accomplice to cold-blooded murder, nearby in
the same building! What could possibly exempt him from the responsibility,
the one whose word is law inside Prashanti Nilayam! (And in powerful government
and law circles in India not least). The victims Â– all the families and
others who so had any connection with involved Â– were persecuted and received
no justice, not even a court case! One example, a 12-year old college boy
who V. Prabhu was checking on for the boyÂ’s mother was imprisoned without
any reason and had to get psychiatric treatment and leave for the US. All
this sheer injustice was heinous. Sathya Sai Baba says we should always respect the
laws of our nation, but what did he do? Ah, he is God Almighty, so he can
flout the laws of any land!
I see that you said that 'only two/three' persons have
made sex allegations against Baba, which is quite false. If you really
believe that, then I am sorry for you for being so sadly misinformed or
naturally very anxious about what you would find. But I know how the inner
censor does not allow such thoughts and it is easy to become fearful...
I understand your position very well. But, Thorbjørn, there are at
least 14 highly credible long accounts to be read on the web Â– and I have
been contacting many people in order to come to a position on whether they
are genuine. I know of many more referred to by others... plus that I have
alone come to know of 8 more instances of unwanted interferences or
molestation, oilings, and kissing of people I knew or who knew friends of
mine. (And I would listen to none of them nor take much notice). But no
amount of mental gymnastics erases the credibility of some of these people.
I have had the aid of friends in investigating further. What of the leading
Greek devotees who withdrew their son from Baba's college many years ago
due to his molestations (their leaving was confirmed by Ratan Lal to a friend
of mine, but he believes only what he thinks he knows – not a very perceptive
man in my view). I understand that the Malaysian Sai Org was split
in two because Baba molested sons of devotees there back in the late 70s.
There is documented reference to this in serious literature, as well as
credible second-hand evidence from two one-time students through a friend
of mine. Tal Brooke is not the first accuser, either - for Krishna, who
Baba held to be his 'soul brother' and who shared his rooms - and even
his chariot on Gurupoornima day, but who left after several years - made
no secret of Baba's sexual inclinations or his teenage lust. It was a long
time before I - most unwillingly - just had to accept the facts that
poured in and I became wholly convinced of the truth behind these allegations.
You cannot have failed to notice how many teenage boys have received many
interviews in a short time, received rings etc., and soon have just Â‘disappeared.Â’
You ask for documentation, but the nature of these cases is
such that this is always extremely difficult to get until investigations
have penetrated deep into the morass. In India, you should know, with crooks
running it (eg. the Tehelka scam) documentation is hard to get and is often
worthless because the legal system is fixed etc. What makes you think VajpayeeÂ’s
government is even as honest Nixon & his administration were? Because
he is a devotee, I suppose? The very idea that they might censor the Danish
media and stop free speech there, as they tried so hard but unsuccessfully
to do, speaks for itself? I do also wonder if it was you who first asked
for such intervention? However, dwelling exclusively on the legal status
of this whole issue will not get you appreciably nearer to the truth of
it. It can just as easily lead the other way! People use it all
too often to defend their beliefs against truth.
The internet has made it possible for victims of all kinds
from all around the world at last begin to be able to confer about their
experiences. This is so for those who have had to cut their affiliation
with the Sai movement and found themselves in a complete social vacuum.
Thousands now have a channel to others at last. The exposÃ© grows and
grows, with the high likelihood that a huge backlog is on the way (as shown
occurred in the Catholic Church and many another such closed institution).
According to devotees who have just returned, they met some of the friends
of several boys sleeping in Baba's apartments every night. It was alleged
that one always shares his bed. Sexually abused person take a very long
time to realise what they have been subjected to, and the process of speaking
out usually takes decades at least. That a number of Baba's ex-student staff
members who have allegedly been his 'form boys' are also pedophiles also
needs serious investigation - the accusations stand from over 170 ex-students
on an Indian website, with a heart-rending appeal to be believed because
even their parents cannot listen to them. In a discussion I had with Narasimhan
about Baba's weird discourse in which he told of the boys sleeping in his
locked apartment & seeing his motherÂ’s ghost etc., well before
the latest wave of revelations, Narasimhan asked me whether homosexual/pedophile
behaviour really mattered in the West. He was crestfallen and silent
when I told him that the world would never accept any such thing. Pedophile
seduction is evidently widespread in sexually repressive India and is accepted
tacitly along with so many other evils, as I have learned from
various sources from my long contact with that country since the 1950s.
Indians who grow up in contact with this accept tend to accept it as a fact
of life and turn a blind eye. Prof. Haraldsson mentions only two instances
of homosexual allegations against Baba in his research interviews. You might
well inquire of him to tell you if he was told of more!
Having studied Indian mysticism and philosophy since the 60s
- having observed in detail the long procession of impure gurus from the
East and having known a swami with 'divine powers' before Sai Baba, among
other experiences I have had, I have to object to the wild theory of some
devotees, taken out of the air, about how oiling (& kissing?) is needed
to affect the chakras etc. Rather, it appears to be a tentative
sexual advance to test the possibility of further intimacy, similar kinds
of advance being well know from the psychopathological literature. To claim
publicly that one 'knows' Baba is not guilty is simply unreasonable
(as Steen Piculell did). It is belief, not knowledge. With Baba it is all
too easy to confuse knowing and believing, he even recommends it to the
point of mindless thoughtlessness! What he does at nights is known only
to those who share his bedroom. He is not under surveillance in the private
interview room, either, nor in various other places.
The conclusion that so many good acts and charm etc. prove
that they are not matched by bad ones cannot be made. Men with great powers
can fall... think of Ravanna who, Baba again and again repeats(!) overcame
all bad qualities… except lust! This is a soul-shaking realisation to have
to accept, I already well know. But your counter-accusations of the accusers
seem to me like offering gall to the suffering. You would not want to be
known in future for that? That you know nothing about the accusers
is evident since you speak of only 2/3. I also think that know relatively
little really about BaileyÂ… or even Conny. I suggest that you could start
by retracting your allegations against them straight away and publicly.
There is a strong movement world-wide to bring all involved to legal
accountability eventually, which I reckon will prove unstoppable, however
long it may take. Other powerful churches, institutions, cults have resistedÂ…
but have eventually fallen, for time is always on the side of accountability.
You might as well know that there are people doing much work informing and
engaging with various world organisations, governments etc.. Subpoenas,
writs etc. against Sai Baba and others are being lodged in more and more countries.
I would recommend withdrawal by you and all others in Denmark
from all involvement with advising young men to take trips to see Baba. Though
I know it is unthinkable to you now, the best thing would be to disband
the Sai Org. in Europe altogether, all in all. Here in Norway it has crumbled
down to next to no one, more than in Sweden even.
I still consider that Baba's teaching contains much wisdom, yes, but I have
increasingly found that there's virtually nothing original anywhere in it.
It is also sweepingly general, often very vague and frequently self-contradictory
(if you really study and think about it). (I have written a lot partly
to try to be a moderating influence - in Sanathana). It is an Ã la carte
menu of all variants of Indian thought, a neo-Vedantic mixture; lacking
internal consistency. It also contains plenty of factual blunders,
misquotes, and - for anyone trained in philosophical analysis - glaring
self-contradictions at a fundamental level that cannot be rationalised in
any way. I assure you that there is hardly even an anecdote or image, parable
or story not taken from others before him that I have not come across before
or since! Baba does not claim to have a new teaching anyhow! I have read
very widely - also heard from my previous guru and other Indian people before
that - many of the examples & stories that Baba uses, almost always
without acknowledgement. You will find this by thorough study of most
of the works of Ramakrishna (by 'M'), Shivananda, Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta,
Chidananda, Shankara, Vivekananda, Dayananda Saraswati, Ramanuja, Godbole,
Blavatsky, Brunton and many more. Nearly all of those are much
clearer, more explanatory and better stated than anything Baba has produced,
even when his often rambling talks were edited down rigorously and intelligently
by Narasimhan etc.
Of course, a high school based exclusively or mainly on Baba's
teaching as the spiritual basis in isolation from the entire, rich culture
of the world, lacking any real comparative study of religions - or even
of science and the humanities - would fall far short of excellence. Also
if it should be conducted without genuine discussion but with patronising
censorship and fobbing off honest questions – as in many European Sai centres
Â– it will become no more than another sectarian curiosity.
Miracles or not, Baba is now in the same position as
many others who also have been totally believed to be 100% pure all their
lives, until the denouÃ©ment... think of Jiddu Krishnamurti, Rajneesh, Trungpa
Rinpoche, plus Swamis Premananda, Muktananda, Swami Rama, and plenty of
others that I have data on. They also had paranormal powers, some brought
up lingams on Sivarathri for years, and many 'produced' vibhuthi, some even
gave shaktipat, let alone healings. All emanated very strong personalities
and what people experienced as love (most probably through unconscious projection
of their own energies or wishful infatuations, As Baba rightly says, love
and bliss really comes from the self within in any case. Flattery and promises
of distant things are the hook, and he uses strong and not-so-loving means
to keep his dependents in line too (to correct you 'for your own good'’?),
as I feel sure you know well from experience. He is not free of his worldly
agendas and priorities in the social and political power complex. Almost
all gurus promise liberation from rebirth to those who they wish to bind
closely to them, surely you must know that! I am quite aware of all
the various paranormal powers of Baba, also that he has many 'human' failings,
more of both aspects than I documented in my book relating to him -
and I have also experienced such powers with other persons both from India
and elsewhere ... besides having widely studied the vast world literature
on this, having investigated deeply for about four decades.
will realise by now in your own mind that Baba's 'revered name' has
also already acquired an indelible taint, despite his constant claims to
the contrary. I am sorry that you have been kept - or have somehow
kept yourself - so much 'in the dark' about these things. I am sad for you
both and all the others who, like us, have been deluded by the hidden
corruption, secrecy and criminality at Baba's ashrams, with his complicity
as Â‘divine directorÂ’ etc. The process of realisation is painful, but there
is no other way – I always thought that eventually, the truth comes out.
It can’t be so totally distant and divorced from worldly facts, or fly in
the face of them all! Of course, I know a lot more about things than
I could reasonably cover in this letter.
That is what I thought you ought to know. Our condolences in all this to
"Thorbjørn Meyer" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
"Robert Priddy" <email@example.com>
I would not answer a letter like the one you send me now. But I have known
you for many years and consider you to be an intelligent, spiritual seeker
that obviously has been mislead. I trust you and Reidun have both left the
Sathya Sai Organisation. You say it has crumbled down. But under your leadership
it never did grow above a dozen devotees, did it?. In fact I think it is
at least as big now as it ever were. And Sweden counted perhaps 50 devotees
at its peak and now perhaps 30. Really not the dramatic changes you seem
to talk about, is it? And don't you worry about the rest of Europe. It is
From: "Robert Priddy"
To: "Thorbjjørn Meyer"
Saturday, February 16, 2002 7:16 PM Thorbjørn,
you deigned to answer me, but also to ask me a question, I take up my right
to answer, and in full. I cannot respect your wish to put me in my place
then shut me up... that is your old method, well-known to many of the
most decent people I have met in the Sai Org., most of whom have left. But
it will not work with me, not least since you have a public duty to be accountable.
It is important that the public get access to this discussion, don't you
You think you base your opinion on facts and claim to have a reliable source.
How unfortunate that your main source has passed away. Why didn't you write
to me when he was still around so I could check with him? About the incident
in 1993 Conny Larsson has the same unconfirmed story but another source:
an anonymous policeman. In either case nobody can check your (parallel)
stories. Who is talking about belief versus facts? You refer to the web
stories. Perhaps something like Hari Sampath's web site?. I think it contains
all of it. A lot of pages based on what is only known by hearsay as well
as bits and parts of newspaper articles. Everything unconfirmed! Sampath
claims to have sent 20 affidavits to CBI in India. But it is not possible
to get hold of these. And they have never been delivered to the proper Indian
authorities in Andhra Pradesh. Larsson also tells abuse stories and refers
to young men (for instance a young male in Poland) who according to Larsson
certainly were molested. But when approached they deny that any sexual abuse
has taken place, at the most the age old Indian oil ceremony (my italics. Note that this confirms Meyer's view what his colleague Jørgen Trygved openly admitted when interviewed on Danish TV News - that oiling of genitals takes place and is acceptable! The documented testimony from over 30 young males - none anonomously - shows how deeply Meyer is in total psychological denail!)
many second hand stories. Nothing of what Bailey writes is first hand. Nothing
is confirmed, everything is blowing in the wind. Just like when you tell
me that Vajpayee tried to censor the Danish media. What nonsense, Bob! You
are referring to an open letter from Vajpayee to media in general (Indian
and foreign) warning them against bringing vicious stories and slander and
urging them to perform proper research. This is what it is about. Nothing
about stopping free speech in Denmark - or anywhere else for that matter.
But a brilliant example of how you and others willingly and without any
proper research turn a single feather into seven hens, as Hans Christian
Andersen described the nature of gossip.
And how dare you criticize the coming European Sathya Sai Educare Academy.
You know absolutely nothing about it. It is a non-profit foundation outside
the Sathya Sai Organisation devoted to spirituality and universal human
values, not the sectarian curiosity that you have fabricated in your mind.
So, dear Bob I am sorry my condolences go to you and the dear sister
Reidun. It would be better if you just turned inside and concentrated on
your own divine Selves. This is OUR primary agenda. And we do not think
that any further dialogue between us serves a meaningful purpose. Please
do respect that.
You asked about the Sai Org. in Norway: "But under your leadership
it never did grow above a dozen devotees, did it?."
The answer is, about 50-odd devotees at the biggest meeting (one Sai Baba birthday),
but few ever wished to be members. I respected their choice, no pressure,
no preaching. I never wanted to recruit people, for I totally rejected your
foolish ideas about numbers being the goal of leadership and proof of own
worth, as you most clearly invest much pride in. (If you like, see my analyses
of Sai Org. here) Did you cause people to become devotees, or Sai Baba, I wonder? I took on the
role as a duty, until someone else would take over. There were real
difficulties for years finding anyone who would even remotely consider becoming
a coordinator. Now there are about 4 persons left at meetings which
once were very often around 20. So you'd better re-massage your statistics
We all make some mistakes, you know, and it seems I was mislead about there
having been a direct approach from the Indian authorities to DR. It makes
little difference. Someone among you brought Vajpayee's attempt at stopping
free speech formally to their notice, n'est ce pas?
You think I have been mislead about Sai Baba. Most certainly I have - about and
by Sai Baba! I could not inform you about the murders before because it took about
4 years of intensive investigation for me to reach conviction about certain
indubitable facts! Besides, I could not risk retribution on V.K. Narasimhan
while he was alive (and much dependent on the ashram facilities after his
wife died). From the same powers who brought about the four executions and
caused much other havoc, with Janaki Ramiah as the central person in
the Central Trust with his big brother, Sai Baba. How reassuring! You think I
am inventing all this. Most unfortunately not.
As to "the age old Indian oil ceremony." Can you document it and
also any credible spiritual reason for it? I admit it is a fact that certain
'ancient' Tantrik cults practice many sexual aberrations, but what
does this tell us? Does this 'ceremony' necessarily involve voluptuous
kissing on the mouth, as even a mutual Danish acquaintance of you at an
interview with me experienced from Sai Baba in the private room while we sat outside. I
shall not name him, but person later came to Oslo and told me this (I would
not hear). Why don't you also contact the nephew of Liz, the 'choir lady',
who went on the web independently to tell how he was molested when he visited
Sai Baba with Hal Honig? I know from reliable contacts of seven other incidents
that are not listed anywhere. Have you too had 'first hand experience' of
being 'oiled' perhaps, if so, why not? Perhaps 'Indian oiling' includes
masturbation? Numerous persons have attested this about Sai Baba. It is not easy
for victims to come forth, esp. when such as you are there to malign them.
Not all are on Sampath's website. Search through the Indian students' website
quicktopic.com, and exbaba.com, or snowcrest.com to start with...Why not
admit it, you just don't want to know.
I do dare to mention that the high school you want to start has been financed,
I understand, from a Sai donation of $6m from the US. Correct me if I am
wrong in also saying that it be staffed by full believers, mostly members
of the Sai Org., and you will direct it. I am informed that the policy of
various national Sai organisations is now to start separate Trusts under
different names in various countries for buying properties etc. without
the Sai Baba name. I feel that you and your accomplices are acting deviously in
this. If I am entirely wrong, then I might just be partly reassured.
But I am convinced there will surely be students who will hear so much about
Sai Baba at your school that they will want to meet him.
advise me to go within as you are doing... when I want your spiritual advice,
I'll ask for it! You say you are doing this, well - I wish you would, but
close down your outward activities firstly! And as to your 'dear sister',
my wife, she left the Sai Org. over a year before me! I had to laugh at
your hypocrisy in using this empty 'title'. Why pretend to be so nice when
you don't mean it? That must be another inauthentic effect of Baba's advice
to 'always speak obligingly'. Did he do so in his Xmas discourse 2001 in
the mandir when he angrily beat the lectern with his fist? But I am not
going to stand for lies and worse, even if I too have to attack critically!
Wake up, Thorbjørn... it 'only' takes about four or more years of searching
self-honesty and investigating facts to free oneself of that delusion and
deceit, if you have the guts.
Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:49 PMDear
you insist on wearing dirty glasses - you will only see dirt. What can I
do? Only wish you will be happy. With Love Thorbjørn"
Reply from Robert Thorbjørn Meyer""Robert
2.15 NT Sunday
wear a blindfold and speak the usual empty words of 'dear' and 'love'. At
least you don't call me 'brother'! But your actions are what count! Think
more about justice and compassion for victims! Thanks for providing me with
the decisive documentation for the Danish public of your total refusal in
fact to do what you said, investigate the allegations! You ask me no questions
about them, you don't want to hear, see or think. Tough luck. How about
'documentation' of your dirty allegations against victims, then?Robert
answer From: Thorbjørn Meyer firstname.lastname@example.org To: ”Robert Priddy” email@example.com
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 12.49 PM Bob, what do you know about my
actions or investigations? But I needn't explain anything to you. You obviously
prefer hal -truths twisted into lies like in the so-called 'documentary'from
DT TV. ThorbjørnFrom:
You wrote: "Bob, What do you know about my actions or investigations?
But I needn't explain anything to you. You obviously prefer half truths
twisted into lies like in the socalled documentary from DR TV."
And what does anyone know about your investigations? We'd really
like to hear that. But you do need to explain, and not only to us, for there
is a gaping credibility gap in your public statements. All honest people
can see it. But you feel much safer not saying much!
Robert replied: We ask ourselves whether you have thought of the painful process we and
so many others have been through? Don't for a moment believe that there
is anything enjoyable in having to take up these extremely unpleasant, disillusioning
subjects. Easier to wash one's hands of the whole thing and enter a world
of denial... but not in the long run, we expect. Apart from the touching,
kissing, sex acts and murder crimes, there is the despicable fact of being
lied to all along by Sai Baba, who claims to be The Truth, Love & Purity Itself.
This is a most heinous abuse of human trust. It is monstrous to be let down
thus and it is usually very destructive of spiritual trust altogether.
I worked for decades as a professional - interpreting, analysing and deducing
- which I apply to your supposed 'investigations'. I am in a position to
compare your position with the facts, many that you certainly do not know
or can imagine. Or are you so simple as to believe that I am unaware that
there are half-truths? Lies can always be found on both sides, but you are
the victim of a massive cocoon of half-truths, and of mystifications, wishful
hopes, uncertainties and tests. A researcher in sociology can't be a simple-minded,
credulous person without deep reflection, testing of hypotheses, critical
questioning of reliable witnesses and other forms of evidence. That is proven
by my critical stance now, because for a long time Reidun and I thought
very much like you about Sathya Sai Baba etc. I too was tempted to swallow many things
that sat very badly on the stomach! But it is no longer at all possible
for us to put our trust in what Sai Baba says now, we have studied his words and
behaviour far too widely, thoroughly and deeply. We know that he speaks
with two tongues, often acts quite contrary to his preachings. Sai Baba says only
what serves his private agenda at any time. But you still buy the whole
thing, " the will of God Himself", don't you? I know the answer!
You think you will get 'liberation'. But at what price the risk?
Most of Sai Baba's promises and predictions are unfulfilled, as you should well
know. Unlike yourself, I seek, examine and investigate properly and at great
length and with my whole soul. That is not least how I eventually found
I had penetrated more and more of the myths surrounding such a numinous
phenomenon as Sai Baba represents, also with a vast mass of half-truths and people
who thrive on them that it has attracted. I have hundreds of documents backing
up my work, and many hundred more pages on all this approaching finalisation.
The psychology of this is also extremely subtle and interesting. Much will
be revealed in time.
Those who stood up bravely on 'Seduced' were just more convincing than you
were later on the news. The documentary has some faults, I know, but it
has very powerful substance too. You have to know how to tell the wood from
the trees. 'Seduced' is the first counterbalance to all the wholly one-sided
films available from the Sai movement. The overall effect of the documentary
is in the interest of free speech and truth. This is needed when there is
zero times zero accountability or openness from Sathya Sai Baba or any of his representative
spokesmen. Your cavalier attitude to 'oiling' overlooks the fact that any
physical intrusion on genitalia without explicit consent beforehand - even
by doctors - is a punishable offence in civilised countries! So this undocumentable
'age old Indian ceremony' had better not be practiced in or via your Sai
High School! Favourite teachers of Sai Baba from his Colleges in India would be
very risky. I attach two comments from top religious scholars on the 'oil
ceremony' as documentation of what those who have researched in just these
fields hold. Their kind of researched evidence would always predominate
in the courtrooms.( See below "The alleged 'age-old' Indian custom
of 'oiling' the genitals etc.")
If you have investigated anything beyond a couple of victim websites, you
still exhibited clearly that you do not care to 'document' any 'findings'.
What do you need, a court decision for everything? Where is your brotherliness
in your indecent slandering of the victims? No shred of evidence from you,
and you still fail to apologise.You mistrust the evidence of David Bailey.
Well, he seemed very like you originally, but he has a heart and some guts,
evidently. He did not choose to find out the awful truths that were gradually
forced on his attention by college students, not after ca. 100 interviews
with Sai Baba and such a huge personal build-up. I do not agree with all he maintains,
but much of it is sound for all that. Ask Magnus Vrethammar, for one...
there is a really honourable fellow who worked tirelessly under your 'leadership'
but who found out. A Norwegian lady journalist here was at an interview
where her boyfriend was 'oiled' and was touched up in the crotch surreptitiously
by Sai Baba out in the main interview room. A lady I know well in another European
country was at PN with several young men from UK on whom Sai Baba 'tried his luck'.
John Bright is another extremely credible recent witness who posted his
shocking account on Craig Hamilton's UK site. Try him! Then there is the
family in Arkansas whose son was molested by Sathya Sai Baba over 20 times over a 3
year period. It goes on and on... there are plenty more. How many victims
have you met and listened to in person (not just on the film)? And your
amateur philosopher, Peter Pruzan, suggested with such compassion that they
must all be deluded! One who thinks truth has nothing whatever to do with
facts, and flies in the face of them, is the one more likely to be moving
away from sanity.
Like I was, and many others were, you are a victim of one of the subtlest
indoctrinations for Westerners in the world today, backed by massive uncritical
hearsay and plenty of official disinformation, yet combined with very great
charisma, a traditional Indian background of fantastic mythology which fascinates
many, use of the 'healing catalyst' role and powers of a Tantric/siddhic
nature... plus sleight of hand too at times, as experienced by the current
Oslo Coordinator . He saw Sai Baba blow on a ring to change it and then give the
changed ring back to the owner. But the old ring was still lying on Sai Baba's
seat when he stood up and went into the small inner room. When asked about
it on returning, Sai Baba testily picked up the old ring and threw it into the
back of his chair.
You help to set up the rigmaroles of indoctrination about the vast privilege,
blessing etc. one must accept before getting to see God Himself On Earth,
the One and Only. You do believe ithat? But only the very rich or socially
influential can buy their way in directly, as all the costly silk-adorned
and bejewelled wives in the two front rows at every darshan show and the
percentage of those taken in demonstrates. Using all the attainments of
the well-tried guru traditions to manipulate psychically, Sai Baba charms people,
then - when he has got all of what he wants - keeps them at arm's length
(but not his various degrees of useful cringing henchmen). However much
your belief is due to naivety and the 'see, hear, think nothing ill' syndrome
(which is actually applied only very selectively, even by Sai Baba), it works
to keep you in line and literally grovelling in the dust before the dualistic
phenomenon Raju/Sai Baba. You are mostly a willing instrument like others - indirectly
wielded - to remove and rubbish other excellent devotees who begin to question
the totalitarian imperium of which he holds the strings. I have met too
many of your 'rejects', nearly all really decent people - ex office-bearers
from various parts of your region - who have still not lost their minds
(as you programatically try to do yourself on Sai Baba's constant unfulfillable
advice!). If you had still had their respect, they might have trusted you
and helped you smash the mirror hall in which you are, but where you can
never find yourself. This 'spiritual testing' will not be easy for you,
and I do regret this.
So one reason why you have these unfortunate problems of credibility (unfortunate
for everyone) is your past attitudes, for who will release confidences to
such a strong denier of Sathya Sai Baba's guilt? To malign the accusers is a guarantee
that you will find no witnesses other than those who have the strength and
confidence to go public. Only the tiniest minority of people can stand up
in the public glare in sexual molestation cases. Would you not behave like
Lucas Ralli did with denials, then fanciful absurd rationalisations when
cornered personally by a determined young man who persisted until he half-listened,
at least, about how he'd been sexually molested by Sai Baba (it's all on the web).
There is also Kyra Kitts testimonial, You have not enough empathy to sense
the fear generated in boys at Sai colleges by retributive murders and power
controls which make it impossibe for molested students even to get a hearing
with their own parents, who behave as sanctimonously about it as you do.
In cases of sexual molestation, trust is THE sine qua non, and your statements
have put you - in the eyes of victims - well outside the realm of trustworthy
persons, and among the many collaborators of Sathya Sai Baba's activities at his colleges
and ashrams etc.. who only a student with a death wish would confide in.
Your way of reacting is exactly why so many have found it impossible to
speak out until now.
You seem about as unknowledgable about India as you still are about Sai Baba.
Even your colleague, the unconvincing Pruzan, can't go along with your report
of the miraculous removal of an Arabic man's scar by massive stretching
of the face which you say you both saw, can he? Apart from gullibility because
of seeing paranormal powers, you don't seem to know the ins and outs of
cognitive dissonance leading on to 'virtual hypnosis', or how induced hallucination
relates to psychic-emotional conditions that cult members enter, Thorbjorn?
Tantric masters and some yogis do all these things. Read Mircea Eliade,
who had real experience and knowledge. Or Vivekananda. As to the formal
legal side that you wish to present as if it provided the only proof of
such things, you know that Sai Baba is beyond the law, in India (not outside,
though!). You must know too that the judiciary has hundreds of Sathya Sai Baba devotees
to the highest levels and they quash everything. In these matters, money
or threats etc. cause official and legal papers to get lost, even people
'disappear'. If Sai Baba were sentenced now, you would doubtless rationalise that
away too. Swami Premananda's followers still do, even on the DNA evidence
of his raping girls who were then murdered! There is sufficient real documentation
for court proceeding even with Indian law, and there are many witnesses
against Sai Baba, but they are socially weak against the imperium and moreover
the courts are just not open to them. Had you studied the Indian judiciary
at all, you would know how it mostly works under the brown sahibs, with
ineradicable cast prejudices and so on. When necessary, the police and judges
are bought and paid by Sathya Sai Baba interests, as were the Puttaparthi police via
blackmail. How far have you actually investigated this? Come on, dare you
not reply to anything reasonable?
So why do you think so many criminals and corrupt Indian politicians flock
to Sai Baba, from whatever party. They range from criminals Bettino Craxi (ex-PM
of Italy) to Narasimha Rao (ex-PM of India), both fully 'documented' and
duly sentenced to long prison terms and huge fines! Rao is one of the first
and very few successes for the CBI in India. Now we can fairly confidently
expect the son of Mr. Kulwant, who gave Baba the mantap hall at the PN ashrams
and named it after him - a massive embezzler recently imprisoned, will go
down too. And why do all of these powerful and rich movers always get front
seats and immediate interviews, while so many unassuming selfless service
workers among the poor and suffering seldom do?
Compare one well-known person among many great examples, the Dalai Lama,
to Sai Baba. The Dalai Lama lives dharma for it can be seen and heard in what
he does. He is accessible in many places without people having to kow-tow
and he answers questions very directly and frankly and in intelligible,
accurate language. He has real humility and enormous courage - putting himself
in the front line - without protection from any troops or gunmen of his
own - against one of the worst regimes in history. Meanwhile, Sai Baba sweet-talks
and blesses all royalty (King & Queen of Nepal too, poor folks) politicians,
and crooks that visit him. Sai Baba has 20 plain clothes security people at great
expense (over 2 lakhs a month now) mingling in the crowds. Is this for the
devotees? No more than the darshan metal detectors or the fact that Sai Baba hides
daily and at night in a fortress apartment, guarded by machine-gun armed
Israel-trained commandos. Sai Baba hardly ever gives a straight answer to any
honest question, cannot stand the tiniest bit of criticism, boasts endlessly
and most embarassingly about his achievements: none do 1000'th of what he
does, he announced, all as if no one else were doing the work and providing
the funds etc. He celebrates himself and his birthdays like no other event,
claiming it is the devotees who want it. But almost only he enjoys it among
the ashram people, who dread it. The Dalai Lama has convincingly lived non-violence
in all he does (not just words) and has never had to stand by while his
close attendants were assassinated with his tacit public approval and cover-up...
he whose word is absolute law in all things done by mega-obsequious officials
in the ashram! Sai Baba did not even risk answering any questions about the murders,
(reread Sai Baba's waffling, devious, insubstantial Gurupurnima discourse about
related details in 1993!). As far as I can tell, nor has the Dalai Lama
had to throw up (most likely poisoned) food in front of followers and dignitaries
at a public function, as Sai Baba did some while ago. And this "ever-tranquil,
totally unaffected" Sai Baba dropped his guard and showed everyone that he
is not compassionate or loving even of his critics, damning them all to
constant shameless rebirths! Puh! The Dalai Lama damns and threatens no
one! Well, Thorbjorn? You won't answer properly, how could you? Your powers
of mental discrimination have been systematically weakened and you can mostly
only regurgitate what you have been told or led to believe. You all need
As to the murders and Narasimhan as a witness to those responsible, he did
not trust you enough to speak to you on such matters, I know. He trusted
me with confidences of which very few - if any - had any idea. Don't you
know how the ashram fits in with the wall-to-wall corruption everywhere
around? Mr. Chakravati was sacked from a government post for embezzlement
prior to Sai Baba's 70th birthday, didn't you know? It was all reported in Indian
papers, of course, and I received info. from a trustworthy high Indian official
about this. Mr. Chakravati was placed at the head of the Water Project (which
is not at all what it is made out to be; I am in contact with professional
hydrologists on this) and now is Head of the PN ashram. You may not know
that Sai Baba visits well-known crooks in their homes? One small example, Narasimhan
told me how Sai Baba took him in his car to call on Mr. Reddy of Madras (in 1995),
the liquour and crime baron. Sai Baba received from him a donation of 1 crore
Rs for the water project, which was announced with his name, and included
other crooks (Bangarappa, not least) at the 70th birthday. (Mr. Reddy was
gunned down on the street and died six weeks later.) I know a great deal
about things that you evidently do not. Another top source in the Customs
& Excise, whose son was a victim of terrible maltreatment by the ashram
& police, then investigated the Central Trust's dealings and found a
number of dealings in black money, among others from none less than Dawood
Ibrahim (you would perhaps know of one of India's greatest mafia bosses,
armament & drugs' runner who is exiled in Dubai?). Well, you are playing
with fire in India, Thorbjørn, if you're not 'a good boy for Swami'.
you want to regain some respect for decency, then answer my many very pertinent
questions, rather than try to attack me while playing patronising at the
same time. It's no use spouting Baba's vague aphorisms at me in irrelevant
contexts. I actually remain unaffected while I have this job to do with
you. And don't try to pull the wool over my eyes about your secret attempts
to try to stop press freedom in Denmark. I know! How can you speak of human
values, when you demonstrate again and again that you don't practise the
most basic elements of them - truth, right action, and always matching words
with your behaviour? No one is perfect, but most of it seems to be just
words from you, and without genuine understanding for other people. I cannot
think of worse qualifications for becoming an educationalist. I have broken
silence only after deep questioning on many fronts. You are representing
the main current hindrance to accountability here in Europe, so that is
why you are getting the heat. You wrote as if I were a hopeless case 'what
can I do?', you despaired. I say to you, do as little as possible, then
you'll risk less and do less harm. You seem to want to know more, if only
still for your own purposes so far. That suits me too, in other ways. Just
So you "only want me to be happy", do you? I'd concentrate only
your own state of mind and soul at this stage, if I were you. Frankly, up
to now, your words to victims have been despicable, and because you don't
welcome frank and honest opinions, and have surrounded yourself with yea-sayers
who mostly reflect back your own opinion of things and of yourself (or else
out they go). I know you can't help that openness and tough truth-seeking
are not natural to you. But you can at least try to change it. Otherwise
I think your steep learning curve will begin on show in a Danish (or it
could be another) courtroom. But that is not my concern. Still, I have to
confront you and your sadly deluded colleagues with certain matters from
now on, on behalf of the offended. It is a public duty. The truth has caught
up with the US Catholic Church where blind eyes were turned to a massive
number of known pedophiles and victims. It is a sign of things to come,
mark my words. There are some powerful people at work. I'd be sorry if you
stood in the way!
Au revoir, Robert
Note: The above correspondence
was not continued due to the predictable failure of T. Meyer to reply.
ON THE ALLEGEDLY 'AGE OLD
INDIAN OILING CEREMONY'
Regarding this "kundalini raising" matter, there is NOTHING
in the literature I've ever seen from the Hindu, Buddhist or Taoist
tantric traditions or Hindu shaktipat guru traditions --and I have
read widely and extensively in this literature--about "raising
the kundalini" by sexually molesting male youth. It is a bald
lie that Sri Ramakrishna initiated Narendranath (Swami Vivekananda)
or anyone else in this manner. The accounts all state quite clearly
that he would touch the disciples on the chest or head. He wasn't
taking them off in private to massage or suck the penis or have male
youth do the same to him. I have an extensive library of many rare
Buddhist, Taoist and Hindu works (in addition to a huge collection
of works from western mystical traditions) and I've NEVER read anything
that would suggest that what Sathya Sai Baba is doing to male youth has been done
by ANY other spiritual master in any tradition. Again, I wrote my
M.A. thesis on the cross-cultural phenomenon of shaktipat or "energy
empowerment" and I've never seen any document that alleged that
the "kundalini" or vital force or subtle energy could or
should be awakened in this manner. The question exposing the faulty
logic here is that, if the kundalini could be raised in this manner,
why isn't Sathya Sai Baba providing the same service for less attractive young
men, or older men, or any females? Barry, please feel free to send
this posting to anyone on your list who is either sympathetic or critical
of Sathya Sai Baba. It's time for the truth to be told about this matter of the
kundalini and Sathya Sai Baba. Best wishes to all, Timothy Conway Santa Barbara,
Many of you know that I teach a course on Comparative Religions (Hinduism,
Buddhism, & Islam) and that Timothy has been the source of inspiration
and edification that I am now emulating. Neither he, nor I, nor anyone
else I know of has EVER purported that what Sai is doing can remotely
be attributed to kundalini raising. That is so far-fetched from Sanathana
Dharma that it falls into the category of a joke. And do you think
that the sexual abuse re the pedophile priests of the Roman Catholic
Church is coincidental to what is being reported about Sai throughout
planet Earth? I would call it synchronous. It comes at a time when
many people in authority that we look up to can have a dark side,
whether they be spiritual, religious, political or otherwise. Much
damage has been done by these people, and it is up to all of us to
see that no more crimes are committed. No matter what side you are
on in this controversy, YOUR dharma is on the line and is inescapable.
The ball is in your court to determine what is true and what is false.
And despite what spin doctors like Bongiovanni spit out, you must
determine for yourself, without prejudice, what is really happening
here and now. Regardless of how it all turns out, you will remain
my friends and cohorts in bettering this beautiful Earth. Dave Lyons.
In response to the former devotee's letter I shared with you on the
topic: kundalini raising, one of Sathya Sai Baba's victims responds thus: "Interesting
though in the light of what happened in my case...was I to rise Sai Baba's
Kundalini since he asked me "to work" his Muladhara? So
who is who?!?!?:-"
I have sought and gained permission to share with you what a respondent
wrote me regarding 'kundalini raising.' My informant says that he
knows the people of the Kundalini Foundation in the U.K .and I know
where they received this information. It came from Shri Siddheswar
Baba, who was also my Kundalini Guru in Northern India. What my Guru
described and what these Kundalini Foundation people are writing about
is not the same. I was there when he said it. I also talked to a young
man who had his K.... adjusted by those means described. This man
remained fully clothed and it was not sexual whatsoever. I feel very
saddened that the words of my Guru are twisted to proof that it is
ok what sb does with the boys. Barry Pittard, Australia.
E-mail to Barry Pittard from Glen Meloy: This is the kind of evidence, of which
there is a flood coming, that is already coming out. I want you to
know that I do appreciate your willingness to follow-up and investigate
these alleged kundalini raising claims by contacting Timothy Conway
and others. It's been on my mind ever since I first heard of the practice
from then dear friends of mine, a Mother and Father of one of the
California boys in Hal Honig's group in 1993 who had his genitals
oiled during the same time period when the murders were being committed
at the ashram. Many red flags were popping up when I heard their story,
but they were interpreting it as a blessing because they felt their
young son was sexually hyperactive and that it seemed to tone him
down a bit. Since they were accepting it as a blessing and as a healing,
I decided not to research it further, but the thought lingered in
my mind for quite some time as I wondered to myself why sb would have
to heal in such a manner. The thought of discussing it further really
never entered my mind because this was the first time I had heard
of it and I thought maybe it was just a special blessing from God
that had been bestowed upon my friend's son. The very fact that he
had been chosen to be in Hal Honig's group was, to me, in itself,
a special blessing for the boy and his parents. That was in 1993....
Now fast forward to December 1999 when I heard directly from
Bob Bozzani similar stories of how either his son or son-in-law had
his genitals oiled and he had the gall to tell me that all the stories
on the Internet were "Old hat" and that he was wondering
when the subject would surface again. When he used the term "old
hat", It again sent off red flags in my mind, but as he went
on to explain that the procedure made his relative or sibling a better
Father and a better husband, I realized that Bob was treating it as
a blessing and a healing so I again dropped the whole subject and
didn't pursue it further. The reason for having this conversation
with Bozzani was because I had received a letter from an American
Mother who was at the ashram in Puttaparti, India and she requested
that I go on the internet and verify the negative stories that were
starting to circulate on the web from people like David Bailey etc.
etc. At the time, her request seemed rather strange because I thought
she was in the presence of the Lord and had settled in for a long
extended stay with her son and husband at Puttaparti. I briefly wondered
why she would even challenge her own faith by making such a request
Since I had never in 26 years ever doubted or questioned the
Divinity of Sathya Sai Baba, I felt these alleged stories had to be evil attacking
goodness and that I should have nothing to do with them; and I politely
declined her request to search on the Internet. The months went by
and then all of a sudden, the first of a series of bombshells arrived
in letter form on April 7, 2000 from India........Again, it came from
the same Mother in India, but this time I learned for the first time
the real reason for her earlier request. In a very distraught and
anguished tone, she told me, that outside of her son and two daughters,
I was the only other person in the entire world that was now being
told that her son had been sexually molested (She used the word raped)
by Sri Sathya Sathya Sai Baba on two separate occasions in September 1999. And
to make sure she had my full attention, she included an exact copy
of her son's very personal handwritten journal accounting of the entire
sordid experiences on those two fateful days.
My whole world was immediately shaken from top to bottom and
an immense feeling of the worst kind of betrayal filled my body, mind
and soul. It was then and still is now described as the biggest disappointment
of my entire life. 26 years of uncompromising devotion was now instantly
down the drain of what could only be termed as a "river of sorrows"
that penetrated my entire being. My life had instantly changed from
being a devout believer and worshipper to crying out a barrage of
questions that had never been asked during the previous 26 years.
After I cleansed my immediate environment of all the photographic
evidence of his presence, I finally went on the Internet and discovered
to my horror that a deluge of stories were starting to circulate about
the molestations that had been occurring for many years Now I knew
what Bozzani meant when he said "old hat",........Obviously
he and a select few had known about these events for many years, but
they never told the membership at large.
That was only the beginning of what we now know to be a carefully
orchestrated conspiracy by the top Sai Organization Officials to cover
up the truth. These self righteous "Rogues" have taken upon
themselves the power to decide whether or not devotees or newcomers
had a right to know about these sexual allegations. In so doing they
have deprived every parent and every relative or friend of these innocent
boys and young men the right to make an adult decision concerning
their safety and well-being. As most of you know, I soon confronted
Bob Bozzani again when the same Mother asked me to contact him after
he had received the identical package of information she had first
sent to me. It was at that time that I formally announced to Bob that
I was no longer a believer in Sathya Sai Baba nor a member of the Sai Organization.
After telling me he was sorry to hear of my decision to leave the
organization, he tried to explain that the trouble with devotees was
they had a tendency to bring God down to the human level and that
it was just not possible to do that. He told me the famous line that
was to be repeated over and over again by other officers, such as
Michael Goldstein, that Baba was "Pure" and that it was
not possible to understand the ways of God. My answer (at least 4
times in our conversation) was...that the God in my heart does NOT
molest little children.
Bob never once denied the molestation charges nor tried to
refute the accounting of the events by the 15 year old molestation
victim I then decided to be one of the active Global coordinators
who were pledged to expose and stop these human rights abuses.........
The Mother had originally hoped that Bozzani, after reading her letter
and her son's journal notes, would call an emergency meeting of the
Southern California Region and disband the entire Sai Organization....
I had warned her that was highly unlikely. Naturally she was very
disappointed, but she then organized a campaign with volunteer helpers
to send out their story to all devotees. After some of the letters
reached many of her California friends, all of us started hearing
excuses for these so called kundalini raisings from Sai coordinators
such as Berneice Mead who asserted that Sathya Sai Baba was out of the goodness
of his heart saving all these boys from their overactive hormones
and bad karma by oiling their genitals. She even claimed the boy was
overprotected by his Mother, but never once denied the actual molestation
events. But at almost the same time, her husband Ron Mead was Emailing
me and saying that Baba would be extraordinary if he could perform
ejaculations at age 74 with a few motions of his pelvis. ..
From: Berniece Mead: Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000
22:53:07 -0700 (PDT) To: Glen Meloy. Subject: Re: BABA DOUBTING.
Glen, I have dealt with the issue you are dealing with for
many year numerous times and have searched for clues and "I"
have talked to some of the males involved. I did not jump to the same
conclusions that you have. My first case goes back as far as 68 and
69. When possible I always ask question but did not always get answers
because The boy involved would not or could not relate their thoughts
and fantasies prior to the act that would be described as sexual.
Remember sex is a mental process. You face the same situation. Those
boys did not tell you or anyone else their thoughts or fantasies,
related to sex, that repeated themselves perhaps most of their life.
Homosexuality is brought on by an Aberration of the mind, (thoughts)
in some form related to sex. AND can only be controlled in the same
manner I COULD GO ON AND ON FOR HOURS. I WANT YOU TO KNOW IT IS NOT
MY INTENT TO CHANGE YOUR MIMD ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING BECAUSE I THINK
YOU HAVE YOUR MIND MADE UP. IT IS OBVIOUS TO ME THAT YOU CONSIDER
Sathya Sai Baba TO BE AN ORDINARY MAN OR A LITTLE EXTRA ORDINARY IF AT AGE 74
HE COULD HAVE AN EJACULATION WITH THOSE FEW MOTIONS OF THE PELVIS.
THE ACT WAS NOT FOR HIS GRATIFICATION. I will just consider this time
wasted motion. If I had the time a conversation with you I think would
be interesting just to find out how you are reasoning. R. MEAD
The strange logic employed by Bozzani and the Meads is interwoven
with excuses for the oilings, but no outright denial that they took
place. And somehow they seem justified in their minds because they
believe sb to be pure and that he is only involved in a healing ritual
and does not receive any physical gratification for himself. This
reasoning is absurd.... Even if the oiling was the only act performed,
one could still legitimately question why if he was really God, does
he need to actually touch their genitals? Would not a gesture or a
look from the all powerful God of the Universe be enough to effect
a healing without touching the individual? Surely, the God of the
Universe would not have to engage in oral sex and/or ejaculate in
the mouths of his devotees to effect a healing?. Where is the healing
in an act which most prudent persons would characterize as pure self
gratification? Barry, I want you to know that I am grateful to have
Timothy Conway's documented research on the record, but we still need
an authentic voice from the hierarchy in the Hindu priesthood in India
to speak out on these alleged kundalini raising procedures employed
by Sathya Sai Baba. I think that the Hindu spiritual leaders owe it to all the
faithful followers of Hinduism to set the record straight. It's time
for them to come out of the closet and dispel the false notion that
shaktipat can only be done by touching the genitals or the muladhara
region. It's actually an insult being hurled by Sathya Sai Baba to all the Deities
such as Lord Krishna, Lord Rama, Lord Jesus, Lord Buddha, Moses or
any of the names of God. Let's put this kundalini raising claim to
rest once and for all, so that the leadership of the Sai Organization cannot hide behind those false assertions. As Timothy so aptly stated.
Another site by a science promulgator highly honoured by the Indian Government
See Danish TV clips and about
the exposé in Denmark, T. Meyer and Co.
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